of apostasy, and it is directed to members of the church; but those who commit the sin were not true believers, that is, not of the elect. We will know the elect only when they persevere until the end.110 This makes a great deal of sense theologically but still falls prey to the basic problem of having to say the descriptions of Hebrews 2:3b–4; 3:1, 6; 6:4; 10:26; and 12:22–24 and the “we” of 12:25, 28 do not speak of true believers. It is difficult to see how that can be upheld in light of the material